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CLEVELAND, 11:24 a.m. EDT May 10, 2001 -- While most children were playing on the playground, Cheryl Hersha says that she was learning how to kill as a child.
NewsChannel5's Brad Harvey reports that Hersha, a registered nurse, tells a story of an abusive military father who forced her and her sister into a CIA child spy program called MK Ultra. A program at the height of the Cold War involved mind control, torture, sex and murder.
"The military training began when I was about eight and that consisted of teaching us weapons, knives, revolvers and shooting," Hersha says.
Harvey reports that there were different names for different personalities. The child prostitute was sexy Sadie. That program turned into the black widow, which was a seductress assassin.
A real life La Femme Nikita, Hersha, who now lives in Arizona with her family, says that she would seduce and then drug top foreign diplomats and then take them to a secret location.
"Sometimes he would be passed out and they would take pictures and that would be enough to blackmail them into compliance," she says.
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But she never completed her missions. She never pulled the trigger on her victims. And because she didn't kill her victims, WEWS reports that an assassin was sent to take her out.
"And he got distracted and I got a hold of the knife. And I did defend my life at that point and plunged the knife into his neck," she says.
The memories were locked deep inside her brain for about 10 years, surfacing after she had a child of her own. She once believed that she was crazy. Nevertheless, she contacted Ohio private investigator Dale Griffis. He claims other MK Ultra survivors have contacted him with similar stories.
Griffis says that after many hours of listening, he realized that there was a pattern and overlapping data.
Griffis and Cleveland-author Ted Schwarz teamed up for a book based on Hersha's story. Beyond the interviews, both men admit that the evidence is thin.
"There is nothing on record that identifies this program by a name with "x" number of children and identifies the people involved," Hersha says.
Shwarz claims that most of the documentation on MK Ultra was destroyed in the 1970s, but he says that Hersha's story is evidence enough. "At this point, what is provable is so provable that what is not provable I do accept," says Hersha. "I wouldn't ask anyone to believe me straight up at face value."
Hersha and the authors warn that people are capable of doing many things under the guise of patriotism.
"A lot of things are done in the name of patriotism under circumstances that people think are right that in hindsight are not. In hindsight they are the horrors of the damned," she says.
The CIA has acknowledged that there is a program called MK Ultra, but officials insist that the group does not include children.
The agency says that Hersha's accusations are without any foundation.
I really should get back to my "real" work now . . .
Whew! For a moment there I thought it was a profile on Chelsea.
MK Ultra?!?
Isn't that the UFO conspiracy that Art Bell and the conspiracy nuts talk about? This article sounds very fishy to me: MK Ultra, CIA, mind control of children, recovered memory. Sounds like "The X Files". I remain skeptical until proven otherwise.
""At this point, what is provable is so provable that what is not provable I do accept."
Sounds like Hillary explaining the "Vast Right Wing Conspiracy" theory.
"the memories were locked deep inside her brain"
- -- um, how? Get this lady some tinfoil!
"The CIA has acknowledged that there is a program called MK Ultra, but officials insist that the group does not include children."
The meaning of "is".
"Isn't that the UFO conspiracy that Art Bell and the conspiracy nuts talk about? This article sounds very fishy to me: MK Ultra, CIA, mind control of children, recovered memory. Sounds like "The X Files". I remain skeptical until proven otherwise."
Did you miss the part/words that say the CIA ACKNOWLEDGED it exists? Try your favorite seach engine and read up on it a bit.
MK Ultra? I thought it was a new McDonald's burger.
When I was a kid, I could fly and turn bad people into dragons.
This channel has turned into the equivalent of the tarot card reading gypsy on the paid ads here in Cleveland.
They're idiots, next thing you know they'll report on alien spaceships being stored in the salt mines under Lake Erie.
What a bunch of stooges.
both men admit that the evidence is thin . . . Shwarz claims that most of the documentation on MK Ultra was destroyed in the 1970s, but he says that Hersha's story is evidence enough.
So... they admit they have ABSOLUTELY no evidence
The first one is the real Femme Nikita, the other one looks capable of seducing Janet Reno or Hillary Clinton, and not much else.
Didn't MK Ultra have something to do with the British intelligence effort during WWII?
Methinks this is one addled young lady with a really vivid imagination ...
The book about this story and indeed the general story is nothing but sicko soft-porn parading as "maybe" "possibly" non-fiction.
The crap in this book is unbelievable in it's resemblence to crap. It was so disgusting and revolting I couldn't stand it anymore and returned the book to the store.
At any rate, even if it is true--which it isn't--couldn't this really have been a deep commie covert operation run from the inside of the US?
In fact, much of what I read bares a striking resemblance to debriefings I've had of captured left-wing terrorists.
Any takers on that line.
The memories were locked deep inside her brain for about 10 years
Just imagine what memories will become "unlocked" years from now when the Ritalin and Prozac children become adults?
I hear that when Dead was a kid, he could fly and turn bad people into dragons (and I look to him as a beacon of normalcy for Christ's sake)
The memories were locked deep inside her brain for about 10 years, surfacing after she had a child of her own. She once believed that she was crazy
By jove, I think you've got it!
Found it:
MK-Ultra: The CIA and Radiation
I remain skeptical until proven otherwise.
Perhaps I can help. I'll flag you.
Your link is mostly about mind control, not British intelligence . . .
Beginning in the early 1950s, CIA engaged in an extensive program of human experimentation, using drugs, psychological. and other means in search of techniques to control human behavior CIA has so far found no evidence that radiation experiments on humans were part of this program. CIA documents and a 1963 CIA Inspector General (IG) report. however state quite clearly that .MKULTRA was a program "concerned with research and development of chemical. biological. and radiological materials capable of employment in clandestine operations to control human behavior." (emphasis added) The IG report states that "additional avenues to the control of human behavior had been designated . . as appropriate to investigation under the MKULTRA charter, including radiation, electroshock. various fields of psychology, sociology, and anthropology, graphology, harassment substances, and paramilitary devices and materials." (emphasis added)[ 2 ] The program included unwitting experimentation on humans with LSD (lysergic acid diethylamide), brainwashing, and other interrogation methods.
This channel has turned into the equivalent of the tarot card reading gypsy on the paid ads here in Cleveland.
Is it the local ABC affiliate?
Harvey reports that there were different names for different personalities. The child prostitute was sexy Sadie. That program turned into the black widow, which was a seductress assassin.
Huh? The child prostitute was a program that turned into black widow? Who writes this stuff?
Ummm. Why wouldn't MK-Ultra people just take prostitutes, brain wash them, then send them out as assassins? While there are perverts out there, wouldn't an adult prostitute have better luck luring in a foreign diplomat than a little girl --the story purports her to be a child assassin -- showing up in fishnet stockings and packing a luger in her Charlie's Angels backpack.
False memory syndrome, an angry and confused "career victim", and manipulation by a greedy counselor. Period.
These "memories" are usually "discovered" by "counselors" who, upon discovering that their patients' families have some wealth or have been associated with well-funded institutional entities, will uncover "memories". These "counselors" almost always have friends in the legal industry. Following higly manipulative and suggestive "therapy" these "victims" will usually be advised to sue their parents/associated institutional entities for damages. Of course, there will be hours and hours of paid testimony from the expert witness - the counselor - and high legal fees to be paid to the associated trial lawyer by the "victim's" family.
If you do a background check, you will probably find that her parents have considerable assets, or that the woman is considering legal action against the CIA. This newsstory/book will be used to "prove" that the woman has made outcry against the sued parties. For the record, I have had personal experience and many friends who have been sexually or physically abused, and although they may have repressed their memories in order to survive, they never just "forgot" about the abuse. They may at some point find themselves in an buried flashback, but they themselves always knew that something happened - they just waited to deal with it until it was safe to do so.
Yup. And it's horrid.
Bump for followup later.
Shwarz claims that most of the documentation on MK Ultra was destroyed in the 1970s, but he says that Hersha's story is evidence enough. "At this point, what is provable is so provable that what is not provable I do accept," says Hersha.
I see. No evidence; no documentation; just some repressed memories of a girl with an "abusive military father" who talked to a PI who -- hey, look here -- found an author to peddle the story to. Well, now, because of the seriousness of the charge, we certainly must investigate.
Lol ... whistling while you work (or walk past a plot of buried bodies) always a good idea.
What an absolute crock...WEWS ought to be ashamed for airing this so-called "report;" ditto to Matt Druge for linking it.
This thing has more holes than a block of Swiss cheese...for starters, the idea of using young girls to "trap" foreign diplomats is a little bizzare, unless the diplomatic community is comprised almost entirely of pedophiles. The KGB used women to trap diplomats and military officers during the cold war (they were commonly known as "swallows"--no pun intended). However, these women were well beyond the age of consent, and their recruitment was based (in part) on their physical appearance and sexuality. No offense to Ms. Hersha, but I don't think she would have ever met the criteria for that sort of work.
Beyond that, kids of the age she describes (8-11) are clearly open to suggestion/manipulation but training them for the tasks she describes is clearly a stretch. Imagine: teaching your 10-year-old daughter to drug, seduce, and even "kill" a foreign diplomat. An extremely stressful, demanding job--even for a grown woman. Simply stated, there aren't a lot of adults--let alone children--capable of carrying out such an assignment.
Finally, there's the documentation problem. Ms. Hersha and the PI who "uncovered" this program claim that most of it has been destroyed in recent years. If I'm guessing correctly, Ms. Hersha is in her mid-late 30s. That means she would have entered the program in the mid-1970s, about the time Frank Church and his Congressional committee were running amok through CIA files, especially those pertaining to covert ops. If this program existed in the form described, don't you think Church and Co. would have discovered it, and used it as "Exhibit A" in exposing the crimes of the CIA?
Don't get me wrong: I'm intimately familiar with the CIA's misdeeds in the past--and they have been many. But I'm not buying this one. I smell at hoax at best, and (at worst) the manipulation of an individual who is psychologically imbalanced.
Running a story like this, based on flimsy evidence, is nothing short of disgusting. When I see stories like this, I'm glad I left the world of journalism for the spook community....
This thing has more holes than a block of Swiss cheese...for starters, the idea of using young girls to "trap" foreign diplomats is a little bizzare, unless the diplomatic community is comprised almost entirely of pedophiles.
Right. I heard the C-I-A doesn't use kids, it uses midgets.
Check Wallaby's post in 28. A search on ASEAC (Is that right, Rivero?) might be fun, too.
"...looks capable of seducing Janet Reno or Hillary Clinton, and not much else."
reno & hildabeast can't have all the fun, don't forget bubba hisself!
hey, with a new doo, this gal looks as good as monica or paula jones.
>the idea of using young girls to "trap" foreign diplomats is a little bizzare
The boys are believed to have been 15 to 17 years old. As shocking as this may be, some say it's routine. A former Bush economic adviser observes, "The sex? That's done all the time. If a foreign diplomat wants a companion, the State Department provides it. It doesn't matter if it's a man or woman. They have a special fund set up for that."(Snooping on Allies Embarrasses U.S., Timothy W. Maier, Insight Magazine October 15, 1998.)
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I really should get back to my "real" work now . . .
Roger that. I think nerds like Brad Harvey, have too much time on their hands.
I don't know how wide your net is as a rule but I've heard that Human Life Review did a treatment of muckety-mucks in Belgium for whom little boys were a preferred indulgence.
Perhaps I'll send my sister by their offices for an old copy.
I think nerds like Brad Harvey, have too much time on their hands.
You realize this is a report done for a Cleveland television station, yes?
hey, this turned into a fun project!
You might want to look for, and read, Martin Cannon's excellent and well-footnoted book, "The Controllers". He started out doing a piece on "UFO abductions" but as he gathered his material, he realized he was looking for the wrong cause of something that was apparently quite real.
MKULTRA -- which is related to the whole ARTICHOKE project from WWII, from which it evolved -- was simply looking for both chemicals that would assist in military/espionage operations, and for counteragents to those chemicals. They tried a lot of things, mostly stuff like sodium amytal and deriviatives, scopalamine and deriviatives, that sort of thing, with limited success both in developing the chemicals and techniques for using them, and developing antidotes against them. However, there was intense interest in LSD, with which the experimenters had remarkably good results for a variety of applications. These applications included discreditation, pumping for information, and simulated psychotic breaks to cause at least temporary incapacitation of targeted persons, generally expected to be hostile foreign leadership.
The page to start with would be:
http://www.earthops.org/mindcontrol.html or http://www.earthops.net/klaatu/mindcontrol.html
See also ftp://earthops.org/pub/humex/human011097.html which is a report from the National Bioethics Advisory Commission, this one's about "challenge studies" where they give medications to _exascerbate_ not alleviate patients' symptoms. Many have been driven insane with this sort of thign, which is reputedly funded partially by pharmaceuticals, assorted university research departments which reputedly are somewhat funded by the Intelligence Community. I can't testify as to that, though many have.
From that paper:
"Placebo controlled clinical trials, placebo washout periods, and one additional thing would be the so- called probe studies where drugs are given in order to explore the pathogenesis of these serious disorders such as schizophrenia where drugs are given to see whether or not they will exacerbate the condition, to see whether they will bring about a transient increase in symptoms.
"These studies are very valuable but they are also very frightening to deliberately induce symptoms in people who may have questionable capacities to understand and in case you induce the symptoms you might have a problem with assuring the subject's freedom to withdraw at any time, you know, as is required by all ethical codes and regulations."
See also http://earthops.org/cult/ or http://www.earthops.net/klaatu/cult/
(the earthops.NET is a faster connection, the earthops.ORG is generally more reliable)
See also the "Human Experimentation Page" at ftp://earthops.org/pub/humex/
I will now send the crawler out, don't expect it to be done today, but check back in 24 hours at http://www.earthops.org/Harvest/brokers/Arcana/
It'll find lots of pages. Look, a word to the wise, a lot of these people reporting this sort of thing are very very damaged... and it's almost impossible to tell in many cases whether they were "out there" before they were experimented on, either way, whether they were experimented on or not, the state they're in now, they're not that credible to most people. But if you listen to their stories, it give you an idea of places to look to _prevent_ such things from happening anymore. which they should not.
Thanks for paying attention!
http://www.earthops.net/klaatu/ http://www.earthops.org/clarkhome.html"
and you could always get some clues from http://earthops.org/loaded.html
No mention in this article of Hillary. I am surprised, I expected she was who it was written about.
I thought this lady might be either related or married or both...to Michael Rivero.
kidding michael...no need to hyperventilate.
Chelsea was taught by a close family friend on how to use a pistol. Poor Vince was very depressed that week. They say that Foster taught her to use her thumb as the trigger finger. Good boy Vince!
A while back, I was reading ourney into Madness : The True Story of Secret CIA Mind Control and Medical Abuse which went into a lot of this kind of thing
There's too much stuff floating around, from too many sources, to discount it. It does look like the CIA had been busy trying to figure out ways to use a combination of drugs and hypnosis to get people who would do stuff without knowing why.
Godd post. I'll check the links later.
Good post, too.
..for starters, the idea of using young girls to "trap" foreign diplomats is a little bizzare, unless the diplomatic community is comprised almost entirely of pedophiles. The KGB used women to trap diplomats and military officers during the cold war (they were commonly known as "swallows"--no pun intended).
Nobody is saying that the CIA was going to use young girls exclusively. However, there ARE people who like young girls, and if one such person had access to good information, setting him up with a girl would be a good way to compromise him (or her). Having sex with an adult woman is no big deal in today's world, but pedophilia IS guaranteed to get you into trouble in most places
And an assassination target is unlikely to have his guard up when approached by a young girl.
Bump!
Reminiscent of Trance-formation of America.
Excellent points. Though actually you may recall a piece on the news about two or three years ago about some rather large paedophilia ring being broken up in Belgium, which if I recall correctly had links all of the way into the top of their government, which is notoriously riddled with compromised officials, and this ring was supposedly not restricted to Belgium, nor to Belgian officals. I gathered from the reporting that these compromised officials were doing their best to compromise other officals in that part of Europa.
The reason I mention this is because this would be the exact sort of target some government want might taken out, and taken out quietly -- especially if that group was able to compromise or apply pressure to one of their _own_ officials or officials of powers with which said government was aligned.
Besides... other countries (and certain parts of Appalachia, heh heh) have different concepts of what's considered paedophilia. If this female had gone through this sort of training, her age at times of use might have been from roughly 14-17. That wouldn't be too scandalous an age to be seduced by in some cultures. Heck, in some cultures, that's considered marriagable age. And in the 14-17 age range, she'd be at the height of speed and possibly of strength -- and as mentioned before, who'd expect murder from someone trained to pretend to be a hormone-victim?
In an case, this whole thing has one thing going in support of it -- it's plausibly deniable. You can say "no way, jose" and it would be reasonable... even if you had personally been the trainer and operations director. Plausible deniability... of course, that doesn't make it true. But definitely do some searches on "dissociative disorder" and "dissociative identity disorder".
Look! Youse guys KNOCK it OFF!!!
You're bringing out "STUFF"!!!!
you'll get banned!
There is no link to this story at DrudgeReport.com.
I just wanna know ONE thing: Why haven't I been flagged to this thread yet?! You guys KNOW I love to read this kind of stuff!
Okay, okay... I'll forgive you, but don't let it happen again. ;-)
.....Flagging for later...walking out the door...
"They say that Foster taught her to use her thumb as the trigger finger. Good boy Vince!"
I KNEW IT!!!!!!!!!!!
And y'all please don't get this thread banned before I get back!
There's too much stuff floating around, from too many sources, to discount it. It does look like the CIA had been busy trying to
figure out ways to use a combination of drugs and hypnosis to get people who would do stuff without knowing why.
Yep. Everything from spilling the beans to spilling blood, from killing others to killing themselves. The U.S. Government finally paid of Sergeant Frank Olsen's family after he took a flier out an upstairs window, and maybe the taxpayers' money will buy them some nice flowers to put on his grave for Memorial Day.
More info about MK-ULTRA [not related to the WWII *ULTRA* codebreaking effort, but which did indeed have roots into the wartime OSS desire to interrogate captured enemy officers, particularly submariners, with a *truth serum* and which was found to be useful for controlling our own troops as well] came out during the Church Committee intelligence hearings, but just after Senator Frank Church got into the interesting subject of assassinations, he developed a really bad illness and passed away....
The Victims of MK-ULTRA
(Court Records, Senate Testimony and FOIA Documents)
The Central Intelligence Agency held two major interests in use of LSD. to alter normal behavior patterns. The first interest
centered around obtaining information from prisoners of war and enemy agents, in contravention of the Geneva Accords. The
second was to deter the effectiveness of drugs used against the enemy on the battlefield.
The MK-ULTRA program was originally run by a small number of people within the CIA known as the Technical Services
Staff (TSS). Another CIA department, the Office of Security, also began its own testing program. Friction arose and then
infighting broke out when the Office of Security commenced to spy on TSS people after it was learned that LSD was being
tested on unwitting Americans.
Not only did the two branches disagree over the issue of testing the drug on the unwitting, they also disagreed over the issue of
how the drug was actually to be used by the CIA. The office of Security envisioned the drug as an interrogation weapon. But
the TSS group thought the drug could be used to help destabilize another country, it could be slipped into the food or beverage
of a public official in order to make him behave foolishly or oddly in public. One CIA document reveals that L.S.D. could be
administered right before an official was to make a public speech.
Realizing that gaining information about the drug in real life situations was crucial to exploiting the drug to its fullest, TSS started
conducting experiments on its own people. There was an extensive amount of self-experimentation. The Office of Security felt
the TSS group was playing with fire, especially when it was learned that TSS was prepared to spike an annual office Christmas
party punch with LSD, the Christmas party of the CIA. L.S.D. could produce serious insanity for periods of eight to 18 hours
and possibly longer.
One of the "victims" of the punch was agent Frank Olson. Having never had drugs before, L.S.D. took its toll on Olson. He
reported that, every automobile that came by was a terrible monster with fantastic eyes, out to get him personally. Each time a
car passed he would huddle down against a parapet, terribly frightened. Olson began to behave erratically. The CIA made
preparation to treat Olson at Chestnut Lodge, but before they could, Olson checked into a New York hotel and threw himself
out from his tenth story room. The CIA was ordered to cease all drug testing.
Mind control drugs and experiments were torturous to the victims. One of three inmates who died in Vacaville Prison in July of
1991 was scheduled to appear in court in an attempt to stop forced administration of a drug, the very drug that may have
played a role in his death.
Joseph Cannata believed he was making progress and did not need forced dosages of the drug Haldol. The Solano County
Coroner's Office said that Cannata and two other inmates died of hyperthermia, extremely elevated body temperature. Their
bodies all had at least 108 degrees temperature when they died. The psychotropic drugs they were being forced to take will
elevate body temperature.
Dr. Ewen Cameron, working at McGill University in Montreal, used a variety of experimental techniques, including keeping
subjects unconscious for months at a time, administering huge electroshocks and continual doses of L.S.D.
Massive lawsuits developed as a result of this testing, and many of the subjects who suffered trauma had never agreed to
participate in the experiments. Such CIA experiments infringed upon the much-honored Nuremberg Code concerning medical
ethics. Dr. Camron was one of the members of the Nuremberg Tribunal.
L.S.D. research was also conducted at the Addiction Research Center of the U.S. Public Health Service in Lexington,
Kentucky. This institution was one of several used by the CIA. The National Institute of Mental Health and the U.S. Navy
funded this operation. Vast supplies of L.S.D. and other hallucinogenic drugs were required to keep the experiments going.
Dr. Harris Isbell ran the program. He was a member of the Food and Drug Administration's Advisory Committee on the Abuse
of Depressant and Stimulants Drugs. Almost all of the inmates were black. In many cases, L.S.D. dosage was increased daily
for 75 days.
Some 1500 U.S. soldiers were also victims of drug experimentation. Some claimed they had agreed to become guinea pigs
only through pressure from their superior officers. Many claimed they suffered from severe depression and other psychological
stress.
One such soldier was Master Sergeant Jim Stanley. L.S.D. was put in Stanley's drinking water and he freaked out. Stanley's
hallucinations continued even after he returned to his regular duties. His service record suffered, his marriage went on the rocks
and he ended up beating his wife and children. It wasn't until 17 years later that Stanley was informed by the military that he had
been an L.S.D. experiment. He sued the government, but the Supreme Court ruled no soldier could sue the Army for the LSD.
experiments. Justice William Brennen disagreed with the Court decision. He wrote, "Experimentation with unknowing human
subjects is morally and legally unacceptable."
Private James Thornwell was given L.S.D. in a military test in 1961. For the next 23 years he lived in a mental fog, eventually
drowning in a Vallejo swimming pool in 1984. Congress had set up a $625,000 trust fund for him. Large scale L.S.D. tests on
American soldiers were conducted at Aberdeen Proving Ground in Maryland, Fort Benning, Georgia, Fort Leavenworth,
Kansas, Dugway Proving Ground, Utah, and in Europe and the Pacific. The Army conducted a series of L.S.D. tests at Fort
Bragg in North Carolina. The purpose of the tests were to ascertain how well soldiers could perform their tasks on the
battlefield while under the influence of L.S.D.
At Fort McClellan, Alabama, 200 officers in the Chemical Corps were given L.S.D. in order to familiarize them with the drug's
effects. At Edgewood Arsenal, soldiers were given L.S.D. and then confined to sensory deprivation chambers and later
exposed to a harsh interrogation sessions by intelligence people. In these sessions, it was discovered that soldiers would
cooperate if promised they would be allowed to get off the L.S.D.
In Operation Derby Hat, foreign nationals accused of drug trafficking were given L.S.D. by the Special Purpose Team, with
one subject begging to be killed in order to end his ordeal. Such experiments were also conducted in Saigon on Viet Cong
POWs.
One of the most potent drugs in the U.S. arsenal is called BZ or quinuclidinyl benzilate. It is a long-lasting drug and brings on a
litany of psychotic experiences and almost completely isolates any person from his environment. The main effects of BZ last up
to 80 hours compared to eight hours for L.S.D. Negative after-effects may persist for up to six weeks.
Psychological Warfare Drugs
(Court Records, FOIA Documents, General Accounting Office investigations)
The BZ experiments were conducted on soldiers at Edgewood Arsenal for 16 years. Many of the "victims" claim that the drug
permanently affected their lives in a negative way. It so disorientated one paratrooper that he was found taking a shower in his
uniform and smoking a cigar. BZ was eventually put in hand grenades and a 750 pound cluster bomb. Other configurations
were made for mortars, artillery and missiles. The bomb was tested in Vietnam and CIA documents indicate it was prepared
for use by the U.S. in the event of large-scale civilian uprisings.
In Vacaville, psychosurgery has long been a policy. In one set of cases, experimental psychosurgery was conducted on three
inmates, a black, a Chicano and a white person. This involved the procedure of pushing electrodes deep into the brain in order
to determine the position of defective brain cells, and then shooting enough voltage into the suspected area to kill the defective
cells. One prisoner, who appeared to be improving after surgery, was released on parole, but ended up back in prison. The
second inmate became violent and there is no information on the third inmate.
Vacaville also administered a "terror drug", Anectine, as a way of "suppressing hazardous behavior". In small doses, Anectine
serves as a muscle relaxant; in huge does, it produces prolonged seizure of the respiratory system and a sensation "worse than
dying". The drug goes to work within 30 to 40 seconds by paralyzing the small muscles of the fingers, toes, and eyes, and then
moves into the the intercostal muscles and the diaphragm. The heart rate subsides to 60 beats per minute, respiratory arrest sets
in and the patient remains completely conscious throughout the ordeal, which lasts two to five minutes. The experiments were
also used at Atascadero.
Several mind altering drugs were originally developed for non-psychoactive purposes. Some of these drugs are Phenothiazine
and Thorzine. The side effects of these drugs can be a living hell. The impact includes the feeling of drowsiness, disorientation,
shakiness, dry mouth, blurred vision and an inability to concentrate. Drugs like Prolixin are described by users as "sheer torture"
and "becoming a zombie".
The Veterans Administration Hospital has been shown by the General Accounting Office to apply heavy dosages of
psychotherapeutic drugs. One patient was taking eight different drugs, three antipsychotic, two antianxiety, one antidepressant,
one sedative and one anti-Parkinson. Three of these drugs were being given in dosages equal to the maximum recommended.
Another patient was taking seven different drugs. One report tells of a patient who refused to take the drug. "I told them I don't
want the drug to start with, they grabbed me and strapped me down and gave me a forced intramuscular shot of Prolixin. They
gave me Artane to counteract the Prolixin and they gave me Sinequan, which is a kind of tranquilizer to make me calm down,
which over calmed me, so rather than letting up on the medication, they then gave me Ritalin to pep me up."
Prolixin lasts for two weeks. One patient describes how the drug does not calm or sedate nerves, but instead attacks from so
deep inside you, you cannot locate the source of the pain. "The drugs turn your nerves in upon yourself. Against your will, your
resistance, your resolve, are directed at your own tissues, your own muscles, reflexes, etc.." The patient continues, "The pain
grinds into your fiber, your vision is so blurred you cannot read. You ache with restlessness, so that you feel you have to walk,
to pace. And then as soon as you start pacing, the opposite occurs to you, you must sit and rest. Back and forth, up and down,
you go in pain you cannot locate. In such wretched anxiety you are overwhelmed because you cannot get relief even in
breathing."
Doctor Jose Delgado: "Man does not have the right to develop his own mind."
(Congressional Record, New York Times)
"We need a program of psychosurgery for political control of our society. The purpose is physical control of the mind.
Everyone who deviates from the given norm can be surgically mutilated.
"The individual may think that the most important reality is his own existence, but this is only his personal point of view. This
lacks historical perspective.
"Man does not have the right to develop his own mind. This kind of liberal orientation has great appeal. We must electrically
control the brain. Some day armies and generals will be controlled by electric stimulation of the brain."
These were the remarks of Dr. Jose Delgado as they appeared in the February 24, 1974 edition of the Congressional Record,
No. 262E, Vol. 118.
Despite Dr. Delgado's outlandish statements before Congress, his work was financed by grants from the Office of Naval
Research, the Air Force Aero-Medical Research Laboratory, and the Public Health Foundation of Boston.
Dr. Delgado was a pioneer of the technology of Electrical Stimulation of the Brain (ESB). The New York Times ran an article
on May 17, 1965 entitled Matador With a Radio Stops Wild Bull. The story details Dr. Delgado's experiments at Yale
University School of Medicine and work in the field at Cordova, Spain. The New York Times stated:
"Afternoon sunlight poured over the high wooden barriers into the ring, as the brave bull bore down on the unarmed matador, a
scientist who had never faced fighting bull. But the charging animal's horn never reached the man behind the heavy red cape.
Moments before that could happen, Dr. Delgado pressed a button on a small radio transmitter in his hand and the bull braked
to a halt. Then he pressed another button on the transmitter, and the bull obediently turned to the right and trotted away. The
bull was obeying commands in his brain that were being called forth by electrical stimulation by the radio signals to certain
regions in which fine wires had been painlessly planted the day before."
According to Dr. Delgado, experiments of this type have also been performed on humans. While giving a lecture on the Brain in
1965, Dr. Delgado said, "Science has developed a new methodology for the study and control of cerebral function in animals
and humans."
Here's a link you'll like then - http://peyote.com/jonstef/mkultra.htm (I'm not very good with HTML.)
According to this, the CIA spent alot of time dosing each other with LSD and watching what happened. There were OD's and the obligatory cover-ups.
WHOA!!! Mainstream news channel?????????
You realize this is a report done for a Cleveland television station, yes?
No, but I guess I should not be surprised.
This thing has more holes than a block of Swiss cheese...for starters, the idea of using young girls to "trap" foreign diplomats is a little bizzare, unless the diplomatic community is comprised almost entirely of pedophiles
That's true. Don't you guys usually use young boys?
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