Subject: Re: Vicente Fox: 'We're Going for More' From: Tiny Human Ferret Date: Mon, 12 Jan 2004 20:54:31 -0500 Newsgroups: alt.politics.british,alt.politics.communism,alt.politics.europe,alt.politics.europe.misc,alt.politics.immigration Richard J wrote: H. Reader wrote: "Richard J" wrote in message news:btu9j7$b6v23$1@ID-164592.news.uni-berlin.de... H. Reader wrote: "Richard J" wrote in message news:btrijp$ae835$2@ID-164592.news.uni-berlin.de... Antimulticulture@somewhere.com wrote: Vicente Fox: 'We're Going for More' Than Bush Plan http://www.newsmax.com/archives/ic/2004/1/8/182715.shtml Thursday, Jan. 8, 2003 Of course they are going for more! They will always go for more. Just as the U.S. needs migrant workers The US does not need migrant workers. Sadly, we do. Mexicans and other Hispanics who come here fill positions others will not take. Without the migrants (legal and illegal) many things we now take for granted would cost much more. That is just one giant load of nonsense. Mexicans don't fill positions that others will not take. They fill positions that Americans would take, if the wages for those positions had been driven into the ground by the masses of Mexicans willing to take those positions. I live in a town where the main source of income is two plywood mills and a stud mill. To fill all three shifts, the mills hire Hispanic workers who come here. The jobs are open to anyone and start at about $9.00/hr, but the unemployed young men and women we have who might fill the position either will not apply, have records which prevent them being hired, or have hired on at times and been fired for non attendance. Even in times when the mills have had to shut down a shift due to raids by emigration and there were scores of positions available as the documented workers went back to Mexico with their undocumented and deported relatives, locals would not apply. That's because they have learned by now, the second management isn't looking, the "spanish" are gonna fuck 'em up. Same way the old Italian Mafia used to do. I tried working with a mixed American/Latino workforce, the only American that weren't driven away severely injured were the Americans who had the power to fire the Latinos and prevent them from being hired. Those who refused to hire illegals had extremely loyal and productive all-American crews, and were destroyed by lawyers for "racist hiring practices". Those who hired mixed crews saw the Americans driven away. Eventually Americans mostly learned to not bother to apply because minimum wage isn't worth months in a doctor's painful care. Those who hired only Latinos had no problems at all, and drove very nice cars because of all of the "kickbacks". These people need to be targeted under the RICO ("Racketeer Influence and Corrupt Organizations") provisions. Face it. Americans suffer and are driven out of entire professions because they won't break the law and backstab people. And Americans suffer and are driven out of entire professions because Illegals are only here because they broke the law, and prefer to backstab Americans and put them in the hospital rather than compete honestly in the workplace. By the way, until the day the George W. Bush gets up in front of the public and says "because of my orders, five million illegal aliens have been arrested and deported" there's no way in hell I would vote for him, and in fact, I intend to do my best to make sure nobody else votes for him either. His announcement of a program to coddle illegal aliens, give them legal status, and invite in even more of their compadres, it's a bizarre capitulation and a renunciation of his sworn duties to uphold and defend the Constitution of the United States, as amended, especially that part where the Constitution declares it the duty of the President to Repel Invasion. I call for protests to disrupt all political activity which is not entirely in support of Repelling the Invasion and destroying the Insurgency which is gutting our formerly great, but increasingly doomed, Nation. Rise for America! -- The incapacity of a weak and distracted government may often assume the appearance, and produce the effects, of a treasonable correspondence with the public enemy. --Gibbon, "Decline and Fall of the Roman Empire